Tuesday, April 29, 2025

Counterargument to Tesla Cars with Full Self Driving (Unsupervised) Appreciating in Value Dramatically

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Yesterday, I wrote about Elon Musk’s long history predicting robotaxi-capable Tesla Autopilot/Full Self Driving. We then bought one other replace from Tesla, stating: “2025 will be a seminal year in Tesla’s history as FSD (Supervised) continues to rapidly improve with the aim of ultimately exceeding human levels of safety. This will eventually unlock an unsupervised FSD option for our customers and the Robotaxi business, which we expect to begin launching later this year in parts of the U.S.” Will 2025 be totally different, or will or not it’s like 2017, 2018, 2019, and so forth. with such predictions? There was no point out of Tesla automobiles turning into appreciating property on this shareholder letterhowever Elon Musk has said repeatedly that FSD (Unsupervised) would unlock an infinite quantity of worth in present Tesla automobiles with the FSD bundle that might make them appreciating property. (My 2019 Tesla Mannequin 3 with the FSD bundle cost $47,190 and now has a trade-in worth properly under $20,000 in response to Tesla, so it must be some bump to make the automotive value greater than $47,000 as Musk predicted in 2019 it might….)

A reader made some very fascinating factors underneath that first article on why the thought of a Tesla automotive like this — or perhaps a new Tesla Mannequin 3/Y — being value $100,000 if it will get FSD (Unsupervised) doesn’t make a lot sense. Right here’s their comment:


Your automotive “potentially” making $30,000/yr doesn’t make it value north of $100k!

I BELIEVE Tesla will resolve FSD, however I’m not assured that it is going to be the primary to take action. Tesla accumulates billions of actual world video knowledge, whereas Waymo accumulates tens of millions of miles actual USE knowledge for robotaxis. Whereas Tesla is aiming for a house run answer that may work wherever and do an in a single day software program replace, others are slowly and steadily chipping on the drawback.

What I’m fully certain of is that a couple of firm will resolve FSD; there shall be competitors, and firms will be unable to easily title their value.

My pc makes me at the very least twice as productive as pen and paper, but I don’t pay $100k or $15K, not even $1k for my new pc each 5 years. My dad purchased me my first DOS pc for $999 again then, about $3k in at this time’s cash. I simply purchased my daughter a close to $600 laptop computer with MS Workplace for school. As computer systems get extra highly effective, the worth goes down nonetheless.

Pen and paper make me greater than 100 instances as productive as making an attempt to put in writing with chisels and stones, but my pen prices a couple of greenback. I’ve cups stuffed with them, which is superb! Quite common however, solely when you consider it, nonetheless superb. In a aggressive financial system, the worth will not be set by how a lot worth one thing brings, however by client’s choices. Nice innovations find yourself commoditized.

After FSD is solved and the novelty wears off, I don’t assume you will want to pay greater than a few grand for the software program. There shall be a time when the bodily steering wheel and pedals add extra price than the FSD software program. Your insurance coverage may cowl it.

When you paid prime greenback for a future robotaxi income stream, then you definately primarily purchased a timeshare. That may make you a lot cash sooner or later. No less than that’s what the salesperson mentioned.


It’s a really fascinating level. Nonetheless, as I’m studying it, a Tesla with robotaxi functionality wouldn’t be value a lot cash as soon as robotaxi functionality is widespread. Pencils are widespread. Computer systems are widespread. Robotaxis received’t be widespread by 2026, so if Tesla may attain that functionality by then, any Tesla automobiles with the potential would have little competitors. So, in idea, the worth of a automotive with this functionality can be the worth of a human driver in an Uber or taxi. Nonetheless … as soon as robotaxi functionality is widespread, as this reader factors out, its worth would certainly drop quite a bit! And would that occur in 2026, in 2027, in 2028? That’s anybody’s guess.

There are different issues to think about. If one was to make use of their Tesla for robotaxi service, that might nonetheless include a number of put on and tear on the automotive, extra frequent alternative of tires, and cleansing providers. You’ll be able to’t cost lower than these prices, and for those who cost way more, who would like to trip in your automotive (and have to attend for it to reach) somewhat than have their very own self-driving Tesla and even have their very own cheaper automotive (whose put on and tear prices are available in under these of a Tesla)?

All in all, 2019 claims of Tesla automobiles dramatically appreciating in worth appear as fanciful as ever. And that’s even assuming Tesla will get FSD Unsupervised working within the subsequent few years.



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